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Ham-Policy Digest           Sat,  8 Oct 94       Volume 94 : Issue  482

Today's Topics:
                               code...
            Code debate solved on national show? (2 msgs)
                      how do you study for code?
                        IGNORE THIS IS A TEST
                 Operation in Bahama's w/US license?

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Date: 8 Oct 1994 07:05:21 GMT
From: [e-mail] (William Martin Johnson)
Subject: code...

the code is an international language.  if you want international bands,
learn the lingua franca.  in the time it took to sift through, post,
read, reply, etc, i'm sure a few of us could have learned the code
instead of staring into these stupid screens... the code is easier to
copy at long distances than voice.  it is more reliable than non-cw
digital modes.  it is internationally agreed upon by the iaru, warc, and
the communications arms of most foreign govt's, so don't hold your breath
for the fcc to come to your rescue.  and it is somewhat of a tribal
initiation, too: there is a wonderful society in cw; it is a good thing
to know.  it is cool.  it is easy.  and thankfully, it is based on
english, which makes it easier for us.  and when the bands are dead at
night, or early before propogation becomes strong, cw is often the only
mode going... just listen to the bands.  and look at the bandwidth: cw is
the most spectrum efficient 2-way mode: with most radios and their 250 hz
(and less) filters, and the new dsp filters with their 25 hz bandwidth,
many amateurs can squeeze into a very small space... on field day, or in a
major contest, we can work several conversations into less than a khz,
while voice and fsk take up more than a khz for only one conversation.
so, before saying that "cw is history," or trying to fight the well
established track record cw has with other bitter slogans, just remember
that sometimes the most elegant "solution" is the simplest.  in this age
which is oriented towards instant gratification, manifested in memorizing
question pools, buying complete stations from a retail source, and
operatorless stations, it is somewhat of a relief that there is still one
requirement which requires either a "knack" or a little elbow grease to
gain the privilege.  now, these aren't "real" answers which contain some
self-actuating, metaphysical, cartesian "truth," which i am sure many of
you are looking for, but they are good social reasons, grounded in a
respect for good operators and my love of the art of radio.
no caps, because we don't need 'em in cw,
-... .. .-.. .-..   .--- --- .... -. ... --- -.
-.- -. -.... --- -  --..--
.--. .-. . ... .. -.. . -. -  --..--
.-- -.... -... -...
- .... .  ..- -. .. ...- . .-. ... .. - -.--  --- ..-.  -.-. .- .-.. ..
..-. --- .-. -. .. .-  .- -- .- - . ..- .-.  .-. .- -.. .. ---
-.-. .-.. ..- -... .-.-.-   . ... - -..  .---- ----. .---- ....- .-.-.-
73

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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 03:29:54 GMT
From: [e-mail] (James J Martin)
Subject: Code debate solved on national show?

Dana Myers ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
: (James J Martin) writes:
: >Kevin Jessup ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >
: >: "Shake hands gentlemen.  I want this to be a clean fight!"  :-))
: >
: >Yeah, like make sure your brass knuckles are clean, make sure your
: >night sticks are clean....

: Goodness... you know, people discussing the code requirement don't have
: to behave like hoodlums.  Personal attacks, getting way off topic, all
: the kind of stuff common on r.r.a.p. doesn't have to happen.

Sorry you took it as a personal attack Dana...I'm not attacking anyone.
Just poking fun at the idea.  I have fun here and I sure wish that people
would quit being so sensitive and taking life so seriously that everything
has to be a personal attack...Hey, life is too short to frown on everything
anyone does that you don't agree with.  Smile a bit...take it with a
grain of salt...forget about it....and live another day.  :)  I sure
plan to.

I think the whole debate is silly anyway but I won't deprive anyone of
their right to argue their point.  I enjoy reading the rantings and
ravings.  And every now and then I poke my $.02 in a bit...not to attack
anyone personally [I don't know anyone well enough to sink their
battleship to begin with on the net].  Okay?  Okay by me.

73 de Jim / WK1V

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Date: 8 Oct 1994 04:12:56 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Subject: Code debate solved on national show?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (James J Martin) writes:
>Dana Myers ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
>: (James J Martin) writes:
>: >Kevin Jessup ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: >
>: >: "Shake hands gentlemen.  I want this to be a clean fight!"  :-))
>: >
>: >Yeah, like make sure your brass knuckles are clean, make sure your
>: >night sticks are clean....
>
>: Goodness... you know, people discussing the code requirement don't have
>: to behave like hoodlums.  Personal attacks, getting way off topic, all
>: the kind of stuff common on r.r.a.p. doesn't have to happen.
>
>Sorry you took it as a personal attack Dana...I'm not attacking anyone.
>Just poking fun at the idea.  I have fun here and I sure wish that people
>would quit being so sensitive and taking life so seriously that everything
>has to be a personal attack...Hey, life is too short to frown on everything
>anyone does that you don't agree with.  Smile a bit...take it with a
>grain of salt...forget about it....and live another day.  :)  I sure
>plan to.

Gee, thanks for the philosophy, but it might be in vain; I didn't
regard your comment as a personal attack.  Your comment was perfectly
fair; it seems that few people will debate things, anything, in
any forum for very long before the discussion becomes personal and
strays from the topic.

I simply don't believe we have to be "violent".  That was my point.
I guess I'm such a dour and unhappy, serious person that it came
across as some kind of serious defensive overture. :-)

>I think the whole debate is silly anyway but I won't deprive anyone of
>their right to argue their point.  I enjoy reading the rantings and
>ravings.  And every now and then I poke my $.02 in a bit...not to attack
>anyone personally [I don't know anyone well enough to sink their
>battleship to begin with on the net].  Okay?  Okay by me.

Oh, I guess so.  If you like rantings and ravings, there are newsgroups
that exist soley for people to rant and rave and flame like animals.
Alt.flame is pretty cool, err, serious people don't say cool, alt.flame
is an appropriate venue for complaing about welfare mentality, fall
of society, rude digital oeprators, and painful ingrown toe nails.

We really ought to create an alt.radio.amateur.flame, where we all
could flame each other with wild abandon.  I'd kick some serious
ass there, oops, dour people don't say kick ass, I'd forcefully
argue my beliefs in a fundamentally compelling manner.  The two
Jeffs could spank each other's monkeys, uh, unhappy people don't
say spank the monkey, the two jeffs could mutually pleasure each
other there.

The point is, if r.r.a.p. is to be a decent forum for useful
discussion, we need to be reasonable.  Off-topic flame wars,
personal attacks, they dilute the point of this newsgroup.


--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j    | Views expressed here are    *
 * [phone]         | mine and do not necessarily    *
 * [e-mail]    | reflect those of my employer    *
 * "Sir, over there.... is that a man?"                         *

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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 07:26:16 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Brandon Campbell)
Subject: how do you study for code?

Mike Lyon <[e-mail]> writes:

>well the title says it all. please post or e-mail.

I practiced using a great shareware program called Morse Academy.  It
goes through the different letters, etc. with you, and then it can do
drills and quizzes by making the various sounds and then you would have
to type the proper character.  And it even has some sample QSO's that it
can play at various speeds for you to see if you can copy.  Great program
if you can find it.

73 de KC5BIC


--
           Brandon Wayne Campbell
Freshman, Computer Sciences, The University of Texas at Austin
[e-mail]                      (mail only)
[e-mail]                 (finger, talk, etc.)

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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 00:21:08
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Micales)
Subject: IGNORE THIS IS A TEST

In article <373ij5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bob Wilkins  n6fri) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Bob Wilkins  n6fri)
>Subject: Re: IGNORE THIS IS A TEST
>Date: 7 Oct 1994 06:31:17 -0700

>Bruce Micales ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Please ignore this post.  I had a recent problem posting and testing to see if
>: it works!

>: Please ignore this post

>: Thank you and 73
>: de
>:  WA2DEU

>: Bruce Micales

>This is an active CW net. Please tune up using alt.test or better yet in
>your local .test news group.

>You are 5-9 East Bay Section with two identical posts.

>Bob


I am well aware of the existance of alt.test, however, I was having problems
posting to this newsgroup.  After fixing the problem,  I needed to test my
system to see if I could post to this newsgroup (NOT a CW Net).

Sorry about the double posting ... my fingers slipped.

73 de WA2DEU
Bruce Micales

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Date: 8 Oct 1994 04:24:28 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Paul Ryack)
Subject: Operation in Bahama's w/US license?

[e-mail] wrote:
> I will be travelling in the Bahama's and/or Carribean in December and am

The name is spelled, Bahamas.  It is not a possessive.  There is no
apostrophe.

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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 17:26:18 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Mickey McInnis)

References<36i3sa$[e-mail]> <36q11m$32f$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Is this a Part 97 violation?


Well, I think the only way it's legal is if it's an emergency.  I think
the best way to determine if it's an emergency is this:

Pretend you will be fined and/or have your licence revoked if you take
action "X".  Would you still take action "X" if you knew this would
happen?  If not, maybe it's not a "real" emergency.

( It's just a rule of thumb, but I think it's a good one. )

--
Mickey McInnis - [e-mail] ([e-mail] outside IBM)
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